Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/05/14

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Erwin Qualifications
From: "793582" <793582@idmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:16:51 -0700

This message from Mr Kotsinadelis should be essential reading for everyone
on this list, indeed for all photographers everywhere.
..............

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter) <peterk@lucent.com>
To: 'leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us' <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Date: Friday, May 14, 1999 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Erwin Qualifications


>This is being said politely, so please do not read any more into this than
>is intended.  I will even add some smiley faces as everyone has taught me.
>:-)
>
>I believe that Alfred Eisenstadt, the legendary LIFE Magazine photographer,
>had indicated that he didn't believe in other people's lens tests.    He
>tested his own new lenses by using them.  If he liked it, he kept it.  He
>succeeded in helping to define photography during this century becuase he
>was busy taking pictures and did not care about what someone else thought
>about his lenses. ;-)
>
>So if one is happy with a lens, use it.  If not, try anotherof those.  In
the end,
>it is the image, not the resolution that will capture the attention
>who see it.  :-)
>
>
>Peter K :-)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lucien [mailto:lucien@ubi.edu]
>Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 4:35 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Erwin Qualifications
>
>
>
>
>DonjR43198@aol.com wrote:
>
>> The scientific method used by BASS is outlined in the BASS reports
filling
>> the entirety of page 3 in the M report and page 4 of the R report
>regarding
>> the use of the MTF method of determining brilliance and sharpness.  At
one
>> time both of these nice reports were available from Leica USA.
>
>And I wrote:
>
>> BAS don't look so independent after all.
>> Now, I agree with what they say about the Leica lenses in those tests.
>
>The problem with the scientific BAS test, is that they were not
>afraid to give 110/100  (yes) to the Leica APO SUMMICRON 2/180mm.
>More than the maximum.
>Really scientific!
>
>And they gave the same result (100/100) to the APO-MACRO-ELMARIT 2,8/100m
>without and WITH the APO-Extender 2X.
>Wow!
>I own the 100/2,8 and the APO-2X, and together they are outstanding,
>but I don't think that the quality is equal on a scientific base.
>
>Now that we have the APO SUMMICRON-M 2/90mm, which according
>to Leica is even better, if not the best Leica lens ever made, how much
will
>they give?
>150/100  ??
>;-)
>
>Lucien
>