Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Anything weird or ultra-left wing always starts in California (I live here so I can say that!) California makes some commie countries look democratic. It would only figure that they would put a damn anti photography law in to effect. Damn those tree huggers.... PK - -----Original Message----- From: Walter S Delesandri [mailto:walt@jove.acs.unt.edu] Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 4:08 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: RE: [Leica] Luftwaffen Leica - Help with Identification Wow, and to think I didn't even start this one..... Relax, ya'll, we ALL have skeletons in our respective genetic closets, and we've ALL been "victims"-- my paternal grandfather was born _IN ROUTE_ while his family was escaping facist Italy... it's a good thing he didn't live to see us freely giving up the freedoms so many died for in our "new facism" -- and to keep on topic, what's the new law in California (!) about it being an invasion of privacy to stand on PUBLIC soil and "invade" privacy with a camera?> anybody heard this? the so-called "papparrazi" law? Oh, well, as usual, such ideas originate in CA and spread like leprosy over the country......... CU, Walt On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Andre Jean Quintal wrote: > At 09:55 -0500 04/01/99, B. D. Colen wrote: > [ . . . ] > Aren't there some "collectibles" that, given their provenance, shouldn't be > collected other than in Museums. Or, are their certain items that we should > neither invest in nor profit from? > [ . . . ] > Mr Colen, > Just how deep do people like you have to furrow > in murky and equivocal self-justification > by so-called "genetic" association, > pretending an inner calling to the valiant and righteous > task of denegating others of the pleasures of their hobby > and wallowing in pointless and irrelevant > "genetic" victimization that have neither > the least thing to do with YOU, personally, > nor A-N-Y of the good people in this group ? > > Perhaps are YOUR ATTITUDES, > given their provenance, > not even worth a square foot of Museum space ! > Not to deny History, just to note you are pretending > to police other good willed people whose worldview > has grown to embrace so much more > than the truly painful life experience > of, perhaps, your forefathers and THEIRS ! > Would you care to ponder the eventuality > of one historical dimension that recalls > the blood, sweat and tears, most likely, > of too many good people drawn in a maelstrom > few could eschew on a day to day basis > "back then", unless willing to risk getting slugged. > > If you don't appreciate my reaction, > please note you were invading my privacy > and personal space with a private agenda > totally alien to the pursuits of our bona fide group: > photo excellence. > > If you wish to so aggressively promote such discourse > in MY e-mail, please be warned you are trespassing. > I am a model of patience, a model of tolerance, > others say : please examine your ultimate purposes > when you regurgitate such venom. > You might be the one person who suffers most > from such and might destroy pathways to friendships > that could do much to heal the unspeakable pain > that is NOT yours, by any standard, > perhaps even healing your prejudice. > > It is not impossible that the person enquiring > about the relative value of this vintage camera > be the son of a man who may have carried > your own father, or a "genetic" kind, to safety. > > War is ugly, even today, with as many Iraqi children > dead in less than ten years of international boycott > than in the sorrowful nazi death camps, now about > one million and counting... > Have you heard of the goulag ? > Have you not heard of the killing fields ? > Have you the least notion of the actual numbers > of starving people on account of warlords, today ? > Have you the very least notion of the numbers > of children maimed by live antipersonel mines, TODAY ? > It's so obscene, the news don't talk about it ! > People simply would not be able to deal with Reality > as it IS : our mutual loss. > > So, we look fifty years back, so easy, > just for the comfort of it ! > > Stigma is a most painful experience, Sir. > My suggestion is you pursue such diatribe > with A-N-Y 'live' German person, today, this year, > and weigh for yourself just how far you then > would be willing to go in the way of finger pointing > and, not impossible, self-righteousness. > > You owe yourself a minute of silence. > > Respectfully, > > Andre Jean Quintal > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Before you judge me, > try hard to love me, > look within your heart then ask, > have you seen my childhood. > Michael Jackson > >