Re: [Leica] was:Apples&Oranges, now Man. focus

[Walter S Delesandri <walt@jove.acs.unt.edu>]

Yeah.......What he said.......bravo, Ted, as usual.
Lets hear it for ol' farts with real cameras.......who still 
know what the hell they're doing........

See, Eric, I >DO< like people who use "R" cameras!!!

Congrats again, Ted (It can't be said too many times)
Walt in Denton

On Wed, 30
Dec 1998,
Ted Grant wrote:

> Peter wrote:
> >For action photographers, one autofocused Nikon or Canon photo that is in
> >focus is far better than a crisp out of focus due to manual focusing Leica
> >SLRs.  Hence the reason the Leica R8 is used by so few action photogs.
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I always love a challenge! :)
> 
> If you have a copy of "75 Years of Leica Photography" have a look on page
> 280 from the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul, Korea.  Then tell me the Canon
> is king.:)
> 
> This image was shot with a 280 2.8 hand held manual focus on a R7,
> basically the R8 as far as manual focus goes. The race was 9.79 seconds
> start to what you see at the finishline. Some of us are very very quick
> action shooters with manual focus. Don't you just love it!:)
> 
> yep it's my picture. :)  what else can I say.:) :)
> 
> However, I'll give you your dues about the EOS1n autofcus Canon, as I've
> used them for sports and yes they sure are whiz bang action auto focus
> camera's.
> 
> I'm fast at manual focus, not as fast as I used to be but that's life, but
> I have to give credit where credit is due and that Canon is very fast and
> I'll admit ....faster than I am. :) But the only place I see any use for
> autofocus is when shooting fast action sports, other than that autofocus
> merely is a tinker toy add on for more profit to the manufacturers.
> 
> <<Hence the reason the Leica R8 is used by so few action photogs.>>>>>
> 
> At the moment I'd say that the lack of the "motor drive" is just as much a
> reason as lack of autofocus. Although I really don't care if they ever have
> autofcus or not. At the moment I have 3 motors on order to go with what
> will be  2 more R8's when the motors are available. And yes with any kind
> of orgaizational luck I'll be shooting the Summer Olympics in Australia in
> the summer of 2000. And  yes I'll be using R8's with motors! :)    Hope to
> meet you there. :)
> 
> In reality many of the auto everything cameras make for lazy photographers,
> in the sense that many shoot in auto everything mode where the camera does
> everything, all the photographer does is become a point and shoot artist.
> 
> This does not imply in any way that you are one of this type of
> photographer. I am merely saying I've seen a great number of them work in
> this point and shoot fashion and that's cool if that's their thing, but I
> don't believe they put as much "eye thought" into the image as someone who
> may work a tad slower with manual focus.
> 
> >Those that spent a ton of money on their R glass, enjoy.  For those of us
> >that need the speed, albeit with glass that is only 95% as good, Canon will
> >always be King.>>>>>>>>
> 
> Ok Ok that did it. King? :)  Prince maybe! :) :) Have a great New Year.
> 
> regards
> ted
> 
> Ted Grant
> This is Our Work. The Legacy of Sir William Osler.
> http://www.islandnet.com/~tedgrant
> 
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