Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/12/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Byron, Certainly your comments are "accepted in the spirit with which they were written." It's always good to hear from newcomers. Welcome to the list! I agree with all the points you made. For me, despite the virtues of Leica lenses---and I know that some others on the list, who are far more experienced and visually acute than I am, may dispute this---the greatest benefit of using Leicas resides, as you've observed, in their "great ease-of-use and control," to which I would add a third factor, their portability (an M6 with a 35mm Summicron lens or 50mm Elmar lens can be slipped into a jacket pocket, and the diminutive Leica CL with its 40mm Summicron lens is even handier in this respect, a real gem!). You can't take pictures when you haven't brought a camera, and a Leica can be carried with you almost anywhere. Again, glad to have you in the group. Art Peterson Alexandria, VA ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [Leica] first time M6 user Author: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us at Internet Date: 12/17/98 2:12 AM Hi, I thought I'd write in with my first Leica impressions. I hope this list welcomes messages from newcomers. First of all, I should say I'm an amateur and I've been using Nikon equipment for years, and most recently Hasselblad. I print my own B&W's at home. After I found out that Keeble & Shuchat in Palo Alto rents out an M6 outfit, I took one with me on a trip to Europe around Thanksgiving week. I wanted to bring something quite portable with me, and I also wanted to see what all the excitement was behind the M system. The use of the camera was quite straightforward. I am accustomed to manual controls from my Nikon F, and also from the Hasselblad. In fact, the Leica is the first camera I've used in a while with a built-in meter so you can imagine that my perspective on automation is somewhat distorted! All the things that people rave about in the use of a Leica I can confirm: the softly-clicking shutter and smooth advance. Learning to use the rangefinder was not really a problem, and I spend enough effort anyway trying to visualize depth of field that I didn't really miss a ground glass to focus on. This aspect of the camera made the best impression with me: without really being easier to use than a point-and-shoot, it still gave me a feeling of great ease-of-use and control at the same time. So more than anything, the Leica changes the way I take pictures. I guess the difference with a point-and-shoot is that I don't like giving up control to the camera. So "point-and-shoot" should really be "point-and-hope". Given that I haven't spent all that much time in the darkroom since my trip, I can't really comment on the fabled quality of Leitz lenses. I've made some enlargements at 8x10 and they are exactly what I'd expect from any fine 35mm lens; fine for what they are, but even at 8x10 they don't compare to the results you get from a 6x6 negative. I don't really want to go too deeply into this subject because I think it gets into the whole issue of Gear Acquisition Syndrome: as I've seen recently on LUG, once people start comparing the performance of one 50mm lens stopped down to 5.6 over another 50mm lens stopped down to 5.6 it makes me wonder if this has any relation to actual photography or if it's become an academic exercise in lens testing. As a sufferer of Gear Acquisition Syndrome myself I try to catch myself before falling victim to another bout of this disease. I guess I can summarize it this way: I'm charmed by the Leica M system, and while I value it for its craftmanship, and for its ease of use, it's still just a 35mm camera. I'll take it on faith that the lenses are good, but there are some lenses in my Nikon lineup (105/2.5, 20/2.8) that I feel are also without equal. When I have the time and energy on my hands, though, I'm going to be using the Hasselblad. That being said, I went out and got an M6 with 35mm/f2 lens last week. I'll be taking it out on the slopes when I visit family on my wife's side this xmas. I can't ever see getting more than 50mm and 90mm lenses for this camera, so I sympathize with the contributor who wished that the tri-elmar had those 3 focal lengths. I hope these comments are accepted in the spirit with which they were written, Byron.