RE: [Leica] Luggers are dangerous

["Kotsinadelis, Peter (Peter)" <peterk@lucent.com>]

Mr. Colen:

No one is insinuating that you are putting down anything.  This is just
opinion.  For those few who really plan to shoot at F1 fine!!! For the vast
majority who do not, and shoot at the middle apertures, why not go with a
Summilux or Summicron and lighten your load, save some money, and improve
images all at the same time with an alternate Leica lens.  That's all I am
saying! Nothing more.  I am looking at it from a practical standpoint.

Peter K.

- -----Original Message-----
From: B. D. Colen [mailto:bdcolen@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 1:18 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] Luggers are dangerous


W
> Nathan:
>
> If you really NEED the Noctilux for low-light fine.  Or like many, if you
> just want to say you own one that's fine too!  But if your photography is
> generally done using F4 through F11, you're wasting your money.

Wait a minute here. I'm not putting down the Noctilux in any way, but
shouldn't one say that if one's photographic needs are limited to apertures
of f 1.4 through f 16, one "might as
> well save the difference in $ and put it toward your next lens of a
> different focal length."

After all, glow aside, what the Noctilux offers, at a penalty of loss of
sharpness, is that phenomenal extra stop beyond the Summilux. If you rarely
shoot at 1.4, and therefore would virtually never shoot at f1, go for a less
expensive, sharper lens.
>
> Peter K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RBedw51767@aol.com [mailto:RBedw51767@aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 10:07 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Luggers are dangerous
>
>
> Nathan:
>
> You do have a dilemna.  I don't know if I could make a good
> decision either.
> My initial thought when I first started considering the Noctilux
> was I would
> need another 50mm for non-lowlight photography.  I thought that
> the Noctilux
> would not be as sharp and I do believe that this is somewhat correct.
> However, there is not as much difference as I thought there would be.  The
> Noctilux will do everything that the Summilux or the Summicron
> will do.  In
> my
> opinion the perfect mate to the Noctilux is the 75/ 1.4  which I
> do not own,
> yet!   Please let me know your opinions of the Noctilux after you
> shoot with
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
>
>
> << Bob,
>
>  I tried a Noctilux in Lucien's office once, and last week at a dealer in
> Brussels.
>  The slides convinced me that this is a lens for me.
>
>  I am struggling a bit right now with the decision as to whether
> to keep my
> other
>  50mm lens, the 1.4 Summilux. I do find the 50mm focal length
> useful, and I
>  originally bought the Summilux as a compromise between the
> optical quality
> of
> the
>  Summicron and the speed of the Noctilux. Now that I have the
> real thing, I
> am
> not
>  sure it makes sense to keep two 50mm lenses. I guess I will have
> to shoot a
> bit
>  with the Noctilux at more normal apertures and see how I like
> the results.
>
>  Nathan >>
>