Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/11/23
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Robert (delia), Please be aware that there are a lot of folks here that have decades of true photographic and Leica experience. Also be aware the all of these subjects have been discussed, ad nauseam, before. There is, indeed, a reasonable consensus among LUGgers. There are personal preferences, but most people understand the technology that they are dealing with. My way of talking, is simply my way of getting your attention so you won't pass it off. I want you to think about something. Why, do you suppose, Leica (and other major manufacturers) have spent millions of dollars developing coatings for their lenses. Specifically, the front element of their lenses. All of the air-to-glass surfaces in a modern lens has a coating. But only the outside of the front element has the super duper very expensive multi layered coating. Why is this??? I'll tell you. That's the first coating to get hit with RAW light, from the outside world. Flare control and reflection inhibition is needed MOST here. Raw bright light, reflective objects, direct sun rays, high contrast areas, will produce flare, when hitting any glass surface that doesn't have a really really good inhibiting coating on it. The lens formula and the glass formula will have some bearing on this as well. Anyway, if the light makes it through the front surface of the front element in relatively good shape, it's on its way to making a clean image. The coatings on the internal and rear lens elements are to suppress reflections within the lens itself. So, what have I just said? I have said that the first piece of glass that the image forming light rays hits, must have the best coating. Anything less than the *best* coating, and the light reaching your film will be less than it could have been. There will be a level of flare above what it would have been. You can also get double images (visible on large enlargements or through a good loupe). Leica warns about all this on their web site. So... is your Leica lens front element, very expensive, heavily researched, very hard coating doing its job??? No. It's hiding behind two air-to-glass surfaces that don't have coatings that even approach that which is on a Leica lens. So what do you suppose is the result of this? I'll let you figure this out. From what you have said to the group, you don't need a good clean coating on your lens. You don't use it. Jim At 09:15 PM 11/23/98 +0000, Robert wrote: > > >Jim and Ted, > >Pardon me for answering someone's question, next time remind me to run it >first by you guys to see if its OK or not. As I said, I didn't expect most >of you to agree. >My personal experiences simply differ from yours. As for it being " bad >information" you may say all you want about the hardness of a lens MC, but >as I pointed out, it only takes some cheap lens cleaning tissue to scratch >it. >And as far as your Leica lenses performing better now than they did 22 >years ago, I imagine that you know that the cause is most likely due to >advances in film emulsions, etc. >Why don't you two check Shutterbug, to see how many lenses are listed with >cleaning marks and scratches, you won't find better proof. End of >discussion. > >Have a nice day, >Robert > >"If you're an enemy, stay away. I am not a nice man. I will go to the >wall for friends, but if you mess with me, I'm going after you" > > Jim Marshall >