Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/10/20

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Subject: Re: [Leica] B&W again....
From: "Robert G. Stevens" <robsteve@istar.ca>
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:10:22 -0300

Francesco:

The whole process takes between half an hour to fouty five minutes.  I do
E6 slides in under fouty five minutes including loading the tank and
processing, to hanging the film to dry.  I use a Jobo CPE2 Plus which
includes everything but the chemicals and the kitchen sink.  I paid about
$500usd for it.  

http://www.jobo-usa.com/jobofoto/products/cpe2plus.htm

I did forget to list a graduate or two.  A cooking measuring cup that goes
to a liter is fine for mixing.  You will need a 250ml graduate for diluting
the developer before use. 

With doing the slide film at home, you save a huge amount on processing
costs and you only mount the good shots.  In your case, you would not have
to mount, but could just scan from the uncut slides.  A one gallon E6 kit
costs about $65usd and will do about thirty rolls in the Jobo.  That works
out to just over two dollars per roll.  Slide mounts are about five cents a
piece and you only mount the good shots.

I would suggest you try the B&W developing first to practice the loading
and processing techniques before going on to slides.  It is not much
different, but there are six steps  to time and keep track of instead of
three. 

Regards,

Robert

At 05:23 PM 10/20/98 -0700, you wrote:
>So with ONLY the stuff you listed below, I can develop my
>own B&W film?  Is this list for films like TMax, or for T400CN?
>IS this something I can manage in a small light-tight bathroom?
>How long does it take to do the entire process on a roll of film?
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>Thanks a bunch for your help!
>Francesco
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>At 08:13 PM 10/20/98 -0300, you wrote:
>>Francesco:
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>>Here is a quick list:
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>>Jobo 1520 tank (will work on their processors if you decide to get one
later)
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>>Extra reel for 1520 so that you can do two films at once
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>>Thermometer
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>>Kodak Xtol developer
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>>Kodak indicator stop bath or equivalent
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>>Kodak Rapid fixer or equivalent
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>>Kodak photoflo or equivalent
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>>An expired film to practice loading the tank.  The dealer should give you a
>>few of these if you buy all of the above.
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>>At home you will need:
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>>A dark closet to load the film.  A towel at the bottom of the door should
>>stop any light leak there, or hang a blanket accross the door to catch any
>>stray light.
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>>A pair of scissors to cut off the leader.
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>>A bottle opener to open the cartridge.
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>>A clock or watch to time the process.
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>>Clothes pins to hang the film to dry.
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>>Water and sink.
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>>The tank and chemicals should come in under $100.  When the film is dry,
>>scan it with your polaroid and make prints with your inkjet.  Find a print
>>you like and get a pro lab to make it.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Robert
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>>At 03:35 PM 10/20/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>>OK......T400CHN and Ilford XP2 Super are the C-41 films
>>>to start with, and TMax 100, 400, and 3200 are the regular
>>>B&W films to start with.  Good so far?
>>>
>>>What is the bare minimum of equipment one would need to
>>>develop B&W negatives in the bathroom sink?
>>>Could someone give me a detailed list of items I could take 
>>>to the local pro photo shop and have no problem acquiring?
>>>Just the basics please, no fancy equipment of expensive
>>>items......yet.  Hopefully I can at least practice processing
>>>my own negs for under $200.
>>>
>>>I am sure printing is another story altogether, and that the 
>>>proper gear, that would do Leica negs justice, would cost 
>>>thousands.   Am I in the ballpark?
>>>
>>>Francesco
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