Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/10/05

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Subject: Re: [Leica] 35 goggled - long and on and off topic -
From: Tom Kumagai <kumagai@po.cnet-ma.ne.jp>
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 21:21:20 +0900

> Nikon allows this too (albeit with certain restrictions!)

Guido, Iisaka-san and others,

Nippon Kogaku used to make good cameras (Is F-5 good? dunno, but at least it does
not attract me),
and many of which are - according to Nikon lovers that I know - still serviciable.
According to them Nikon takes good care of their old customers, and that's why they
are sticking with F mount, (but I
think another reason is that as their flagship cameras are named F-<sequential
number>, if they
change the lens mount they would have to start all over with X-1 or such...
Considering Nikon as the
leading camera manufacture of Japan, at least they think so, their pride won't
allow that to happen.
Kinda Samurai issues. Well, just kidding... :-P) Canon doesn't care about old
customers, they didn't
miss their outdated mounts or their old soldier F-1.

How about this? Large format cameras, whose history is much older than Leicas, and
image quality
35mm cameras cannnot beat. They can mount some 100 yo lenses.

Also Pentax K mount is designed to be compatible with M42, via  simple and
inexpensive mount
adapters ( like LTM to M adapter) that they sell. You can Mount Preset Takumars on
LX or even
MZ-3(ZX-3 in the U.S., right?). but it's more than that... M42 mount compatibility
means that you can
use a variety of old time german lenses like Carl Zeiss Jena, Shnider(spelling?),
Voigtlaender(under ZI), Angeneux, Steinheil, etc, etc... all postwar, though...

There is Contax/Yashica mount to M42 adapter. How about mounting 58mm Bioter(for
Contax S)
or Tesser on Contax S2. I think it's a historically interesting conbination to see,
don't you think?
Pancolor can be a better choice, west meets east and then re-unite with another
east. :-P

I used to shoot with Pentacon 50mm mounted on Pentax. I think Asahi optics' Pentax
is sort of
related to Contax or Pentacon, so I consider this convination as interesting. Well,
whatever, huh?

Anyway summarizing from what I have learned, the significance of Leicas is the fact
that they are the
ones who started today's convenient mannarof 35mm photography. A portable and full
metal camera
(yeah, right, the world's first full metal camera is by Voigtlaender...) you can
hang around your neck and
go  anywhere; and  the concept of system cameras - compact accessories and a
variety of lenses that fit well to the camera. Also the legendary optics... and
good look and feel.(thanks to Apple, we now can
have patent on it. :-P)

If some of you want to dream on, I won't stop you, but I would be careful not to
consider Leicas as
more than what it is. I like my Leica, beautiful touch of satin chrome, gentle
sound of FP shutter,
enjoyable film loading process (that is nothing more than torture for some
"nintendo camera people"
around me), and beautiful negs it produces... but I feel like playing with other
domestic(for me ;-))
cameras that some of our people took some sleepless nights to design. Even though I
don't agree with
their concepts, nobody should neglect their efforts and accomplishments.

As a Japanese, I am proud of them for those cameras that can produce decent
pictures without any
knowledge of photography... but - again - I don't agree with their concepts... I
believe they can produce
better mechanical RF cameras than Leicas if they want to... they just have to
forget - just for a while
- - about cost efficiencies and build the 90's edition of Nikon S3 or Canon 7s with
plenty of latest
technologies dedicated to  feel and quality, not to the extra, unnececary, and
somewhat annoying
functions...  Japanese manufactures, forget about numbers on your catalog or sales
reports for a
while, and show the world what you can do! 45 focus areas? Who needs them?

Well, let's get back... My point is that it doesn't hurt to be equiped with the
right informations. You
don't need any extra controvercial arguments to make Leicas shine. Leicas already
are great cameras!

Talking solely of craftmanship I recently learned that there can be some cameras
better than Leicas...
like Vitessa's chrome plated steel top plates and focusing system of Prominent 35
and II... those
cameras are so beautiful ... oh only if there weren't that annoyiing and ugly
chimney thing on Vitessas,
and only if they had more variation of lenses on Prominents... maybe that's how
they lost the  battle...

Leicas seem much easier to use... :-P I remember that another advantage of Leica is
its simplicity...
So I will take Leicas...

Oh, it's too long,  I know. Sorry, I just have too much extra time today...

Tom K.