Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/10/01

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: MR meter for M3
From: "Joe Stephenson" <joeleica@email.msn.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:47:52 -0700

Dan,
I strongly agree with  those who recommended a separate hand-held meter. It
is--to me--a much better option. Besides, I think the meter on top of the
camera looks awful. I love my old Luna Pro, but there are lots of good
meters, some of them not too costly.
Happy metering
Joe Stephenson
- -----Original Message-----
From: InfinityDT@aol.com <InfinityDT@aol.com>
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: MR meter for M3

>In a message dated 10/1/98 5:55:40 PM EST, dkhong@pacific.net.sg writes:
>
>> Hi friends
>>
>>  I am exploring the possibility of attaching a working meter on my M3.
>>  Which models are suitable for this camera?
>>
>>  I understand that some of the old meters use mercury batteries and some
are
>>  selenium types. Would it be preferable to get a selenium model since
>>  mercury batteries are no longer available in many countries?
>>
>>  Dan K.
>
>                         All the Leicameters designed for "M" models will
>couple to the shutter-speed dial and work.  Finding a selenium meter that
>still works is getting harder and harder.  Then, they have about 1/2 the
low-
>level sensitivity of the later CdS models. They made a booster cell
attachment
>for it, to some avail, but it was not very ergonomic to say the least.  The
>selenium models also read a large angle of coverage, so they're easily
fooled
>by contrasty light.  Unless you keep them covered when not in use, they
>fatigue from prolonged exposure to bright sunlight, and [temporarily]
become
>inaccurate.  You are certainly better-off with a MR or MR-4 meter (both CdS
>types) which read an area equal to the 90mm frame-lines in the .72-finder
M's,
>so probably the 135 frame in your M3 would be a rough approximation.  I
>understand that the on-switch of the MR (switch is small, T-shaped, on the
>meter's flat side) is not longer obtainable, so it's more difficult to
repair.
>The MR-4 (last one made, up until the mid 80's) has the top-mounted switch,
>which is nicer if you ever use it with the M4-series as it leaves room for
>working the rewind crank.  CdS meters are slower-reacting than the more
modern
>silicon cells, but they're just as accurate.  Using the Leicameters, you
still
>have to take the camera from your eye to read the meter and set the
aperture;
>also, you can't mount a shoe-flash or accessory viewfinder along with the
>meter.  One in good shape will run close to US$200.  All of them took
mercury
>batteries.  They can be adjusted for the voltage of the alkaline
replacements,
>but not for the discharge curve.  Mercurys are linear, i.e. they maitain
>constant voltage until they die.  Alkalines lose power as they discharge,
>which without a regulator means the meter readings become less accurate.
The
>zinc-air "Wein" cell replacements don't have that problem, but they are
>expensive and short-lived.  There's a company in Arizona called CRIS that
>sells an adaptor the size of a PX13 or PX625 into which you put a MS76
>(silver-oxide) battery.  They say it has micro-circuitry that matches the
>mercury performance exactly.
>After all, I have to say that I much prefer a handheld meter.  I use the
>Sekonic L-408 digital that reads 5-deg spot and incident, ambient and
flash,
>shutter or aperture-priority, and it has a memory function for multiple
>readings.  It takes one AA cell, fits your hand, and it's splashproof.  I
use
>it even with the M6 whose metering area is often too large especially with
>wideangle lenses.