Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/06/19

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Subject: Re: [Leica] all I have to say.....end of discussion
From: TM <spaniel@pacbell.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 16:40:28 -0700

BRAVO! I'm in the San Fernando Valley, I'm part Italian, and support your writings
entirely! If I weren't so swamped with 7-day work weeks, I'd drive over the hill
to meet you and celebrate your accomplishments over a glass of wine!

Five Senses Productions wrote:

> THIS is in response to the 70 or so emails I have received over the past 48
> hours about the whole incident:
>
> I DO NOT appreciate ANY of the bad-mouthing going on over me, my site,
> my photography, those who have supported me on the LUG, or my ideas
> for a web site for the LUG.  I made an offer out of the goodness of my heart
> and look what I get for it.  If there are a few LUGnuts out there that don't
> enjoy my style or genre of photography, so be it.  No one is forcing you to
> visit my site, and I have NEVER posted (in my YEAR on the LUG) ANY
> endorsement or advertisement for my site on the LUG.  This groups is for
> things Leica-ish, period, and that's all I bring to this group and all I
> would
> expect to take from this group.
>
> And as to these TOTALLY UNFOUNDED allegations of me being the guilty
> party in some comic-book story of "blackmail," this is ridiculous.  I have
> nothing to do with this WHATSOEVER.....I do not know Alf, I have never
> met Alf, I have never corresponded with Alf.......how could I blackmail a guy
> I know nothing about????  Wake up people!  Don't jump to conclusions and
> don't assume......you make an "ASS" out of "u" and "me."
>
> With the mentality of some of the memebrs of the LUG, I am surprised no one
> has accused me of being in the Mafia since I am Italian.  I thought the
> average
> age on the LUG was over 40?  From some recent comments, it seems the
> mental age is somewhere around 6.  Grow up and act like adults!
>
> Everyone keeps reposting this stupid article written by Ms. Macavinta of CNet,
> written over a year ago!  Come on.....this is old news!  Let it go
> already......
> Playboy won their case, this is true.  Their attorney's fees were OVER
> $100,000
> while mine were UNDER $20,000.  I do not have a wallet as big as Playboy's.
> With their bigshot lawyers and a conservative judge on the case, I was
> destined
> to lose.  The whole thing just became a big publicity stunt for Playboy.
> It also appears legal experts are not expert enough on how news servers and
> NNTP
> news services operate.  They incorrectly assume "if it's on your server,
> you put it there
> and you know what it is."  This is far from the truth.  There are GIGABYTES
> of kiddie
> porn, beastiality, and all other kinds of illegal images residing on
> servers operated
> by YOUR ISP right at this very moment.  Did you know that?  If you don't want
> your LUG photos on a server that is connected to the server that hosts my
> very
> tasteful, and very legal glamour photos,  then how can you STAND the FACT
> that YOUR ISP assists in and MAKES POSSIBLE the distribution of hardcore
> and illegal pornography?????  It's a fact of life on the web.
>
> Come on people!  Educate yourself on the basic workings of the Internet before
> you make yourselves look more like ignorant children that you already have!
>
> And to those of you who have voiced your support for me and my cause, or at
> least have acknowledged my basic rights, I THANK YOU very much and
> appreciate the kind words.  You have proven yourselves to be great friends and
> I look forward to discussing things Leica-ish with you for many months to
> come.....
>
> That's all I have to say.......
>
> Francesco