Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/04/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]- --simple boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Hi LUGnuts. I'm by no means a purist as I'm also a TLR fan. Occasionally I dig out a Mamiya 330f Pro or a Rollei 2.8E (Zeiss Planar). The only relevance of MF to this group is the Rollei, which, of course,can be a 35mm. portrait camera in its own right with a Rolleikin kit. On the rare occasions I have thought far enough ahead to use the Rollei in 35mm. mode, I have never been disappointed. After all, an 80mm Zeiss lens is a pretty good focal length for portraits. That said, you can achieve an effect almost indistinguishable by enlarging a similar area from a 120 neg. Or on the Mamiya, you can use the 180mm., which is a totally different experience. However, back to Leicas and Super Angulons. I've had the 21/3.4 SA M for a long time. It's one of the greatest, and it isn't even a Leitz designed lens. Recently (courtesy of a fellow LUGger) I now have a a 21/4 SA R for my Leicaflex SL (also non-Leitz. but from the same stable.) Colourwise there's little to distinguish them. Distortionwise, the reflex (retrofocus) version is ever so slightly worse than the M version in the extreme corners. In the acid test of producing real examples which show off the virtues (and drawbacks) of these two. they're both excellent working lenses. Haven't seen too many 21mm MF (or even equivalent) lenses around.... Slan Alex Alex Hurst Waterfall Nr. Cork Ireland Tel: +353 21 543 328 (H) +352 21 270 907 (W) Fax: +353 21 271 248 email: corkflor@iol.ie Home website: http://homepages.iol.ie/~corkflor/ Business website: http://www.flowerlink.com/corkflorists - --simple boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="RFC822.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RFC822.TXT" Received: from mejac.palo-alto.ca.us by mail.sd91.bc.ca (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00) ; Thu, 23 Apr 98 17:26:40 -0800 Return-Path: <owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Received: from by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (5.65/KJV) id AA06786 Thu, 23 Apr 98 16:21:28 -0700 Received: from mail2.mail.iol.ie by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (5.65/KJV) id AA06780 Thu, 23 Apr 98 16:21:21 -0700 Received: from [194.125.43.50] (dialup-038.cork.iol.ie [194.125.43.38]) by mail.iol.ie Sendmail (v8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13954 for <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>; Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:21:16 +0100 X-Sender: corkflor@gpo.iol.ie Message-Id: <l03110701b16572b9c733@[194.125.43.50]> In-Reply-To: <199804232038.AA19384@peugeot.instinet.com> References: Your message of "Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:21:18 PDT." <19980423172119.16756.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:19:58 +0100 To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us From: Alex Hurst <corkflor@iol.ie> Subject: [Leica] Comparing SAs/Big Leicas (very much off-topic) Sender: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Precedence: bulk Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us - --simple boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="RFC822.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RFC822.TXT" Received: from mejac.palo-alto.ca.us by mail.sd91.bc.ca (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00) ; Thu, 23 Apr 98 18:26:46 -0800 Return-Path: <owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Received: from by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (5.65/KJV) id AA07240 Thu, 23 Apr 98 17:32:05 -0700 Received: from [204.244.104.125] by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (5.65/KJV) id AA07234 Thu, 23 Apr 98 17:32:00 -0700 Received: from mail.sd91.bc.ca by sd91.bc.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14387; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 17:21:45 -0700 Received: from ccMail by mail.sd91.bc.ca (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00) id AA893377770; Thu, 23 Apr 98 17:29:30 -0800 Message-Id: <9804238933.AA893377770@mail.sd91.bc.ca> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 17:29:11 -0800 From: "Administrator"<administrator_at_elec__bus@mail.sd91.bc.ca> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Cc: <Administrator@mail.sd91.bc.ca> Subject: [Leica] Message not deliverable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="simple boundary" Sender: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Precedence: bulk Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us - --simple boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="RFC822.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="RFC822.TXT" Received: from mejac.palo-alto.ca.us by mail.sd91.bc.ca (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00) ; Fri, 24 Apr 98 00:46:07 -0800 Return-Path: <owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Received: from by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (5.65/KJV) id AA07943 Thu, 23 Apr 98 18:33:24 -0700 Received: from [204.244.104.125] by mejac.palo-alto.ca.us (5.65/KJV) id AA07909 Thu, 23 Apr 98 18:32:37 -0700 Received: from mail.sd91.bc.ca by sd91.bc.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA14660; Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:22:12 -0700 Received: from ccMail by mail.sd91.bc.ca (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00) id AA893381400; Thu, 23 Apr 98 18:30:00 -0800 Message-Id: <9804238933.AA893381400@mail.sd91.bc.ca> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.10.00 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 18:29:14 -0800 From: "Administrator"<administrator_at_elec__bus@mail.sd91.bc.ca> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Cc: <Administrator@mail.sd91.bc.ca> Subject: [Leica] Message not deliverable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="simple boundary" Sender: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Precedence: bulk Reply-To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us - --simple boundary--