Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/04/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>After having read the arguments against the mtf test of Leica lenses, >especially those developed by Erwin, I must conclude that MTF is not >objective because one test is inadequate and because a lot of measures >needs a subjective interpretation. >Well, as it is the general case in science, I must conclude that science is >inadequate or subjective.I think this great post modern discovery deserves >a name. I propose : the LUG impossibility hypothesis. > Dominique, I am afraid you have completely misunderstood my reasoning and arguments. Undoubtedly it is my poor English that forced you to the conclusions noted above. Let me restate. One: I am a great admirer of MTF graphs. I do think they give invaluable information about a lens performance and MTF measurements are as objective as can be produced in this scientific world. I am not "against the mtf test of Leica lenses" as you infer from my postings. I really never said that and I would like to set the record straight. I only noted the way CdI interpretes the mtf numbers: weighting them and attaching to the resulting numbers a description like 'very good'. I also do seriously question this type of presentation. The presentation is subjective, not the mtf numbers. Two: Eric is partly correct in stating that any MTF graph on its own and isolated from other info, easily generates half-truths. The mtf values correlate surprisingly well to the sharpness impression of a picture. Third: the mtf graph does not give any information about colour rendition, close-up performance, light falloff,flare suppression when strong lights are shining in the lens, gradation of subtle hues in fine image details etc. Therefore the mtf info is usefull and objective, but not conclusive. Fourth: the evaluation of a lens is indeed a creative act, based on as many objective figures as possible (including mtf graphs), but in the last analysis the evaluation of a performance of a lens is *like it or not* a subjective act. Compare it to the way a literary expert would analyse a poem. You can collect any number of figures about the use of words,the relation between concepts, use any semantic or syntactic computer analysis program. In the end the beauty and impact of a poem can not be quantified to the last punctuation. So it is with a lens: a lens has character and a certain balance between many optical parameters. This balance gives the lens an ability to record the world in front of the camera with a certain fingerprint, different from other designs. This is what we like about Leica lenses, even if on some measurement the score is lower that that of the competition. Fifth: I do support the free press, but the press has also its responsabilities to steer away from easy conclusions and possible mis-interpreations. Here I can admire the position of the most respected British Journal of Photography, that steadfastedly refuses to print mtf graphs, as they are so easily misunderstood without a thorough optical background. They prefer to describe a lens in words any photographer can understand and relarte to the photographic practice. Erwin