Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/02/12

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Subject: Re: [Leica] RE: Thoughts for Solms on a new M7
From: Peterson_Art@hq.navsea.navy.mil
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 10:07:13 -0500

     
     Nick,
     
     Thanks for several excellent observations, especially about "splitting 
     sales between...models" and how the "Leica M is cheaper than a Contax 
     G2!"  I agree.
     
     Art Peterson

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Subject: [Leica] RE: Thoughts for Solms on a new M7 
Author:  leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us at internet
Date:    2/12/98 12:09 AM


Be careful what you wish for......
     
It sounds like a great idea to have a whole bunch of M cameras, one for 
every taste! Trouble is, the market can only expand so much, splitting 
sales between many models will marginalize the older designs. In an 
economic downturn, management will "simplify" the line, and soon it's 
goodbye M6.
     
So who cares? Wouldn't it be OK if we still had an "M" camera in name, 
maybe appearance, and status, plus lots of lights and buzzers to show off 
to envious SLR friends?
     
At the risk of starting an incendiary skirmish, I don't think so. The M to 
me is not a collection of features on a bullet point list to compare in a 
magazine article. And I'm not just talking about history or tradition, 
either.
     
Let me make a bold statement: The Leica M is cheaper than a Contax G2! Let 
me explain. Any electronic equipment has a finite life cycle. I'm not 
talking about  reliability over the normal use of the product, but 20 years 
from now. When the circuits degrade from aging, the replacements stored on 
shelves will be equally old. No one will make new flex boards for 20 year 
old cameras. This is happening now to the early generation of electronic 
cameras from the 1970's. It's not a matter of support from well meaning 
companies, it's just a matter of technology. An SL or FM will be around 
longer than an R3 or F3. Electronic cameras, like VCRs or computers may 
give long, reliable service, but they are not lifetime investments.
     
A machine which has proven to have a potential for a lifetime (!) of use is 
a very different kind of investment.
     
Having said that, and bowing to the inevitability of some innovation, It is 
fun to speculate on what Leica might do with the M line. It seems to me 
there are two markets they might pursue.
     
First, there are still many professional users of the M, as witnessed here 
on the LUG. these are the photographers who would likely benefit from TTL 
off camera flash, high speed shutters, etc. These cameras would need high 
mag finders for the Nocti, 75, etc. but would also need to take the widest 
lenses (auxillary zoom finder?) and of course would be only in black (no 
commemoratives!). Can't wait, you say? Well, such a camera would no doubt 
be expensive, but also probably larger than current M's. But pros would be 
carrying big lenses and flash rig, so what of it? Also will end up on the 
scrap heap with other electronic toys one day, but pro use will wear them 
out first, and anyway that's what amortization is for!
     
The second market is what I would call the high end amateur travel shooter. 
This is where I am concerned that adulation for a G2/me-too would endanger 
sales and survivability of the traditional M. But I am not a complete ogre. 
Leica is already a point & shoot marketer, and their products are OK for 
what they are. I do wish they had a more distinctive presence in the 
compact market, but I hope they can do it without compromising their unique 
traditional products.
     
Well, if you've made it this far (don't you have a life either?) I guess I 
should reveal my real daydream Leica. It would be a true chrome mechanical 
camera, III size or smaller, short RF suitable for w/a or slow teles, M 
mount with traditional shutter or built in vario lens with mechanical 
compur type, M6 style match diode & combined RF/VF for modest lens 
selection 28 or 35-90. Kind of a screw-mount updated with the best of the 
CL and minis, Like the M6J was an M3 with the best of the M6.
     
Appologies for wearing your eyes out,
     
Nick Hunter