Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/11/08
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]> From: TEXWORKER@aol.com > Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 23:05:14 -0500 (EST) > Subject: Re: Leica-Users List Digest V1 #738 > <snip in message on Antarctic> > Need sugestions for for lens, other articles for my bag. I will be shooting > primarily Kodachrome 25 and 64. My primary camera will be R8 but have other > R's also. > I have shot very little in snow and would appreciate suggestions for exposure > problems. I have been shooting snow for ages up here north of the arctic circle around the city of Tromsoe, Norway at almost 70 degrees north. My experience is limited to the M6, the Nikkormat and the Nikon F2A. However, my wife is using a N90S without having any problems at all. This can at times pose a challenge to my claimed superiority of "must have" mechanical cameras that "does not need batteries", and that will "keep on working". Somehow, she does not buy it all. I guess she was just lucky getting a well functioning N90S. Yes, that's it. Pure luck instead of quality control. Anyhow, here are some of my observations on snow: - -I use Velvia and Kodachrome 64. Nowadays I mostly use Kodachrome 64 because I prefer the way the Kodak labs around here develops and mounts the slides compared with non Fuji labs doing Fuji films with Kodak soup and test strips. - -Do not expect to use the same camera outside and then enter a warmer area (a room, a car, etc) and continue to use the camera. Condensation will cover the camera and when you go back out it will freeze. On the M6 this will result in, among other things, that the frame preview will stop working (it will start working again when it thaws). - -When entering a warmer area leave the camera outside or make sure your bag is as cold as the camera, put the camea in the bag and let the bag protect its contents from warming up too fast. I like well padded backpacks for outdoor work in the winter (winter equals meters of snow up here). The padding is a good enough isolation against too fast warm ups. And I don't have to put the bag down on the snow. In the wind, a bag on snow covered ground will get much air carried snow particles from the area just above the ground (did this make sense?). - -I also use zip locked plastic bags both for protection against the weather and the heat. When I have to go inside, I put the camera in a large bag and zip it. The condensation will mostly stay on the outside of the bag like magic. Buy the heavy duty freezer bags. I try to grab some of these every time I am in the US and smuggle them back into Norway since I can hardly find these bags around here. Perhaps zip lock bags are under US export limitation just as cryptography systems are (or used to be)? Well, just a weekend thought. - -I do not recommend keeping the camera under a jacket near your body. This can make the camera a few degrees warmer than the air away from your body. It just takes a degree or two and the (temporary) damage is done. If you have to take pictures both inside and outside close in time to each other, you should keep at least one body heated and dedicate it to warm environment shooting. Also consider that you may not want to open your jacket if it is cold, windy and snowing. At least not too often since there seems to be a time threshold to the "open time", and if you go beyond it you will pay dearly. - -Overexpose 1/2-3 steps. Bracket. I find it a challenge to get details in snow. But they can be exposed. "Wrong" exposure values will color the snow in various ways depending on the time of day. The amazing thing is that this can be done without using computers at all. - -Sleet will hit the lens, and then freeze leaving spots much bigger than raindrops and dust. It is visible in the pictures. So protect the lens when it sleets and snows. I use the everready case (se below) and zip lock bags. I wish the 50/2 front lens cap worked better. Then I could put it back on if I needed to. Unfortunately someone at Leica has decided to make it an automatic cap that removes itself when you look at it. This may be inspired by the Canon eye control system for autofocus. I have also observed that the plastic "spring" in the new 50/2 lenscap seems to get brittle in the cold and break. Well, this has only happened to me twice. And in all fairness, perhaps the intended use is in a warm budoir and not in 2.40 meters of snow. I have read in the M6 literature from Leica that they test the body between -20C (-25?) to +60C. However, the lenscaps are not mentioned. Perhaps they just forgot. Details, details. - -There is a need for a "snow shade" for the lenses. The new 90/2 and 50/2 sun shades are next to worthless when it comes to protecting the front lens element from snow and rain. But they do look good. - -I find that I merge very well with the M6 for outdoor work when it is cold. I have been out in the cold for many hours, and the M6 just keeps on ticking (Bits and pieces are falling off the body, but this does not really interfere with the basic soundness of the concept, the design and most of the implementation). I have been out continously for up to 10 days (sleeping in both small and large army tents), and all the camera gear was kept cold the whole time. I take no special care of the batteries, and they seem to last a long time on the M6 (but I always carry 2 sets of spare batteries in my pockets (different pockets for redundancy). However, I do not like to do battle with the battery cover late in the afternoon at -20 Celsius (or even -2C), so I try to make sure I have fresh enough batteries in the camera to last me at least twice as many hours that I expect to actually spend. Perhaps I should grow a large strong nail on one finger instead. Instead of adapting technology to humans, perhaps we can go the other way. - -I carry a spare battery cover for the M6. I you really have to change batteries, your hands will quickly grow cold and loose sensation. Then you will drop the battery cover in the snow, and you will never ever find it again. I think this must be the first reported case documenting that matter really can disappear leaving no traces. Even if it is not as sensational as cold fusion, it will leave you feeling like a cold turkey. - -I actually like to use the infamous everready case when being out in the bush. The advantages include that I can easily protect the lens when moving around, and I don't have to open the backpack too often when it is snowing. Accumulated snow in the bag will melt when you get inside again. The everready case is also extra protection against a too fast warm up when you get back inside. If you are inside just 30 minutes or less you can still go back out and the camera will probably be cold enough to be used right away. The drawbacks to using the everready case are obvious: everybody tells you it is a bad idea, so you must decide if you dare to be seen with an _expensive_ one marked "Leica". - -Take care to control where your mouth and nose are pointing. It just takes a moments distraction to have a viewfinder or a lens covered with fog from your breath. Then it will freeze. My solution is to put my finger directly on the viewfinder glass, wait a few seconds and wipe the glass with anything soft, cold and dry available. However, I do not do this on a lens surface. Good luck with the Antarctic trip. I wish I could gump along. > clifton > (TEXWORKERE@AOL.COM) Otto