Re: LUG logo

["Sam Shoshan" <shoshan1@worldnet.att.net>]

Hi Jim,
When I saw the very nice LUG Logo, I was wondering myself when the question
would come up.  Unlike Robert Rose, I am not a specialist in trademarks.  I
can share with you my experience with Leica before I became an authorized
Leica dealer.  I posted in my Shutterbug ad items that said Leica new with
USA warranty; Even though I was in the process of receiving my dealership,
I received a letter from Leica and Shutterbug advising me not to put the
word new unless I am an authorized dealer.  This might explain how touchy
they are about dealers who are not authorized but not necessarily about a
user group.  In my opinion the rules are clear about using a logo and you
must first obtain authorization in written form.  They might however
overlook that in this case.(I hope)  
I hope this was somewhat helpful
Sam Shoshan
The Classic Connection
Authorized Leica and Hasselblad dealer. 

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> From: Jim Brick <jim@brick.org>
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: Re: LUG logo
> Date: Monday, November 03, 1997 6:07 PM
> 
> At 10:27 PM 11/3/97 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >>A word of caution here, Alastair. I mentioned to Hans in private email 
> >>that the red meatball and the highly styled word Leica may be 
> >>trademarks of Leica and can not be used by other than themselves and 
> >>authorized dealers. I feel pretty sure that there is a reason that Jim 
> >>Kuehl does not use them in his Shutterbug ads. 
> >>
> >>It might be prudent to check with Leica on this, Perhaps they would say

> >>"fine if not used by someone in the business". I frankly don't know, 
> >>but better safe than sorry. Sam Shoshan, recently authorized Leica 
> >>dealer reads this list. Sam, any comments?
> >
> >You're probably right about the trademark Roger, I do realize that.
Perhaps
> >it's better to ask Leica first.
> >Suppose I want to write a book about the Leica M system. It's pretty
> >obvious I'd like to use the Leica logo on the cover. Do you have ask
> >permission for that? Or is it enough to mention that the book contains
> >Leica trademarks?
> >Perhaps Marc James Small can shed some light on this trademark matter?
> >=========
> >Bert Keuken
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> Obviously you guys havent been reading the "Roll Call" entries. Following
> is the first part of Robert Rose's entry. Read the second line.
> 
> 
> 46 years old (today)
> Copyright & trademark attorney in Pasadena
> Resume:  http://www.usip.com/resumes/RJR.HTM
> BS in physics & astronomy
> Graduate school in astrophysics until I got one too many C's.
> Interested in photography I since purchased an Exacta in high school.
> Decided to be an astrophysicist, then when I couldn't cut the mustard
> dropped out, got married (1972)  and went to law school.  I represent
> photographers and others with copyright and trademark beefs, and I can
view
> the astrophysics department at Caltech out my window.  Now I have made
> enough $ to afford my  first passion.  Some images are at:
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rjrose/gallery.htm
> ...
> 35mm Cameras
> M6 silver chrome
> 35 Summicron-M ASPH, silver chrome
> 50 DR Summicron
> 90 Elmarit-M, in new silver chrome finish (hu ha!)
> 135 Hector
> ...
> 
> Robert Rose <RJR@usip.com>
> 
> Jim