Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/10/14

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Subject: Re-2: Leicas and SLRs from Leitz
From: Alfred Breull <puma@hannover.sgh-net.de>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:05:48 +0200

Sorry, Marvin, I forgot: 

To me, a 20 y old Nikon FM is a better SLR than a R Leica or Leicaflex
(except for the bright screen and the 1/2000, but still better in total):
smaller, loading system is better, highly reliable, more comfortable
lightmeter sytem (in her time, and - for me - till today), and a very
reliable mechanical shutter. And, if I could give names to SLRs, I would
call or name the Nikon FM as a fine example of a R Leica, not those Leitz
GmbH products. On the other side, this statement is not true for several R
lenses.

Alf
- -------------------------------------------------------------
At 04:04 14.10.1997 -0400, you wrote:
> Sehr gut Alf -
>  You are saying what I said last June, that you don't consider the "R"
> to be a true classic Leica but merely an excellent German SLR, and
> I nearly got my throat cut by Ben Holmes & other "R" users.  Even on
> the LUG, everyone has a right to his opinion & I dont consider a front
> engine Porsche to be a true classic Porsche either but it only a matter
> of semantics.  Many Leica RF & Porsche rear engine devotees feel the
> same way and that is what Horse Racing Wagering is all about. There 
> is a lot of space between here and there so as my niece used to say -
> "Shoot for the moon and even though you miss - you'll land on a star".
>
> ****************************Marvin Moss
>In a message dated 97-10-14 03:38:04 EDT, you write:
><< 
> Marvin,
>  that's exactly what I'm talking about. You used a SLR, not a Leica. The
> winders are different. And, a Leica has a viewfinder, no screen. Screen
> problems might occur, if you use a SLR from Leitz GmbH or try to switch a
> Leica into a SLR e.g. by the Visoflex. 
>  Alf
> ----------------------------------
> At 01:26 14.10.1997 -0400, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 97-10-14 01:06:00 EDT, you write:
> ><< 
> > Gosh ! 
> >  If you would use a Leica and not a SLR from some Leitz GmbH, 
> > you wouldn't have problems.
> >================================================ 
> >  Alf - I don't understand what you are telling me.  My problem was
> > my heavy finger pressure on my wifes R7 nicht my M6, and it has
> > already been solved thanks to Ted & Jim.
> >================================================
> > It's the same with screens: you don't have screen problems if 
> > you use a Leica. 
> >================================================ 
> >  Alf - Leica makes many screens and there is one to please everyone.
> >================================================
> >  Marvin Moss
> >
> > :)
> >  Alf
> >  ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > At 23:06 12.10.1997 -0700, Jim wrote:
> > >At 12:44 AM 10/13/97 -0400, Marvin wrote:
> > >>   I don't use a winder myself on my Leicas since I use RF versions only
> > >> but my wife does on her R7s.  On the few times that I have used hers,
> > 
> > >You are using the wrong release button. Don't use the button on the
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------- >>
> >
> >
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