Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/09/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 10:01 AM 9/5/97 -0500, Bill Grimwood wrote: >I am going to put in a digital darkroom. I have a HP colorsmart 35mm >scanner and need some advice on a printer. Can I use a good ink jet such >as the new Epson printers or will I have to have die sub to get excellent >results? > >Also I have an old version of Aldus Photo Styler but should I up date to >new software? If so what do you recommend? Adobe Photoshop? Is anyone >using PhotoImpact 3.0 > >I am not doing professional work but I am very serious about my work. I >want to be able to print 11X14 prints. > >Any help will be appreciated. > >Bill > > Earlier this year I did an analysis of this stuff when I was considering either going entirely digital or upgrading my darkroom to do color more easily. Here is a summary of what I discovered. The first thing you must do is determine how large your prints are going to be. This, coupled with the resolution of the printer will determine what kind of scanner will be needed. For me the largest reasonable print size was B size (nominally 11x17). Using normal photographic paper sizes lets use 11 x 14 for our example. In order to prevent pixel duplication with a 300 dpi printer you will need a digital image size of 3300x4200. Assuming your source is a 35mm slide (highest quality input) your source image size is about 1x1.5 inches. The highest resolution slide scanners (Nikon, Polaroid and Microtek) are 2700 dpi. This will produce a digital image of 2700x4050. Thats pretty close to the desired target. These scanners are all priced around the same level but figure on at least $2000. Printer technology and demonstrations are pretty dicey. I have an HP 693C with the Photo color kit. It produces nice demonstration results in small sizes. But my own images have never looked as good as the demo prints in the store. One fundamental, inescapable limitation of ink-jet technology is that banding is nearly impossible. It becomes obvious when reproducing large patches of vibrant, highly saturated colors. Another is that the ink dots don't really ever mix in a predictable way. Color lasers mix colors better but produce very washed out results. Thermal wax transfer is better yet but the results are not really correct colorwise and look cheesy. Dye sublimation, of course, works by using layered translucent color masks. Dye sub is the only way to go if you want quality similar to that from current commercial color processes (RA or R3000). The Fargo Pictura 310e is a very nice B size printer. I forget now what the price is but I seem to remember the number $7000 with all the desireable bells and whistles. Not a bad value for a printer with these capabilities. The real problem is consumables. It came out to several dollars per sheet. Remember with dye sub, you use dye film in amounts equal to the paper you print, not the amount of color on a page. Thats the reason most people use the thermal wax option for proofs. Another nice feature of the Fargo printers is that they readily switch back and forth between the two technologies. Next comes the software. By most professional accounts PhotoShop is the benchmark. For me all this meant a new computer as well. My bottom line was that I really enjoy messing around in the dark and using the processes I knew well. The cost of consumables also looked really daunting. The other problem was that a digital camera which could fit into this scheme (similar resolution etc.) costs at least $9000 and preferably $20000+. Without a digital camera of that class, I would still be using traditional processes for image capture. Since I would want to process those films myself that meant I would need to upgrade the darkroom anyway. The decision was easy, stick to traditional processes for now! One major caveat, your notions of what level of quality they want from the system would alter the analysis substantially. Hope this is somewhat useful. Best Regards, David Seifert dseifert@earthlink.net