Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/08/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Joy to the World announced: > Is anyone foolish enough to believe that autos, watches, wearing apparel >& >cameras of today are made to the same quality standards of earlier years when >there was pride in workmanship. They probably all perform better than their >precedents but they are not built to last. Cheap Chinese quartz watches >often >keep better time than Rolex & Patek Phillipe of the past; same with sound >speakers that had massive magnets & heavy solid walnut cabinets. > In this plastic age, most appliances (including Leicas) have much >better >performance than their predecessors but who cares? >I DO!< When I buy Leica >I expect the service & expertise of which Leica built its reputation. > My M6 does not take any better pictures than my IIIf, BUT I DO. because >it >is easier to use & has a great meter (if your battery isnt dead). Would HCBs Well.... Let us start with cars. I've had a lot of cars, and remember many my dad had. Without the slightest doubt today's cars, in spite of their vastly greater complexity are also vastly more reliable, and of higher quality on top of the performance, safety, efficiency and comfort advantages they enjoy. There _were_ higher quality cars in the fifties, and there _are_ low quality cars today, but overall the advances have been huge, and not just if the 'Prince of Darkness' held sway over the electrics in your Anglomobile. Watches. I have a couple of Rolexes, an old Omega, an old Tudor, and, among others, some electronic watches made by Seiko and Citizen, as well as some European quartz watches. One of the Rolexes has been in for repair regularly every 5 years or so because some threads on a lock-down stem wear out. The Omega has been in the shop about 5 times over the last 30 years. The Tudor has been in the shop twice. The quartz watches (up to 20 years old) have needed batteries. A Citizen watch I had I threw away, not because it was not repairable, but because the repair would have cost almost 25 percent of the repair cost of the Rolex, and so wasn't worth it. The quartz watches have demonstrated to me a much higher degree of reliability than the mechanical watches. The Rolex Submariner will outlast almost everything else I own (not necessarily in working condition), but so would anything else with as thick a case of high quality steel. Gold Rolexes will not last as long (unless kept in a safe or jewelry box). Massiveness, and other examples of adding strength to a part in the past was not usually a sign of greater build quality, but rather a sign of not understanding materials and the stresses that they are subjected to as well as we do now. It is not necessary to have a Summicron 50 weigh as much as the old DR for it to be considered well-built. If you extrapolate the same sort of design philosophy to many of taday's products, using a 600/4 lens would be, literally, a team effort. Intelligent use of modern materials and design give us a Summicron 50 today that is a lot lighter, and is more durable in at least one of the components that matters most, namely the coatings. Whether the mount will last as long will have to be decided by our grandchildren. This 'service and expertise' of Leitz' in the past was not that hot. I finally sold my IIIg and Ig cameras in the sixties because Leica couldn't get them working reliably, after they had been out of my hands for a total of over 6 months. That wasn't service or expertise, that was crap. My M6's have, all in all, been the most reliable Leicas I've had. However... the most reliable 35mm cameras I've had were some Konica Autoreflex cameras that I used heavily between 1969 and 1980. Not one repair or adjustment was ever made or required. Optical performance was excellent, and I shot Leica and Konica together on many occasions. Some of the photos on my web site were taken with Konica. Leicas undoubtedly look and feel better built, but given that during the period I used Konicas a lot my Leicas were in the shop at least once every three years each, Konica Autoreflexes were undoubtedly the more reliable camera. BTW, the Nikons I've had since Konica gave up on SLR's have not been quite as reliable. So, to wind up this drivelling tirade....I'm firmly convinced that most manufactured goods today are made to as high a qualitative standard (However you define that, except as pure mass) as things before. Some things are made cheaply and poorly now, but more stuff was made that way in the past. Fortunately, most of that stuff has broken and worn out and has been tossed. Only the good stuff remains from the past, but that is not representative. One of my businesses is architecture, and I hear constantly about the wonderful buildings of the past. Face it. The good stuff from the past has been saved and polished up. The bad stuff fell down, has been torn down, has been renovated 18 times, or has had huge trees planted in front. Old ugly stuff has not survived. New ugly stuff will be treated the same eventually. So today I'm going up in a plane to take some aerials with my super reliable Mamiya 645, and later I'm going to take some pictures with my somewhat more cranky Sinar, and I'll have an even slightly more cranky M6 along to take pictures for the joy of taking pictures, as I find that a higher percentage of Leica shots are 'keepers' than those taken with most other 35mm cameras. * Henning J. Wulff /|\ Wulff Photography & Design /###\ henningw@archiphoto.com |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com