Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/08/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I think the point Marvin Moss is trying to make is not whether the M-6 is a fine camera or not. It is whether the M-6 meets the construction standards that the IIIG or the M3 set. The general consensus from collectors is that it doesn't. Users are a mixed lot depending on how much they like the meter and how many times they've had to get stuff repaired or the rangefinder adjusted. Users also tend to put more emphasis and thought in terms of resolution, freedom from coma and flare shutter accuracy etc. The collector in me thinks the M-3 DS is the finest M camera ever made and I'm not alone in that conclusion. If I buy one again someday I probably won't use it much as it takes to long to rewind the film and I like having a meter. So the user in me says the M-6 is a better camera because I'm willing to accept the difference in construction and prefer newer features. The user in me also likes motordrives, spot meters, L zooms and TTL flash. I got into camera collecting as a hobby because I enjoy photographic history. I now look mostly for 35mm cameras (that I can afford) that were made in the 50's and early 60's. I can tell you that there are many superb cameras in the time period and many manufacturers produced their most finely machined and constructed models during that time period before the wide spread usage of plastics. But I like all metal cameras with no meters for my collection. I'm not saying that a IIIG is a better camera than an R8, just that from certain perspectives it is much finer in machining and construction. It is also not to say that the old lenses were better optically, just some were better in fit and finish. Let's face it, each of has a different set of criteria that we use to in determining which is camera is better. Marvin is a member of the Leica Historical Society of America and has 100 leicas. The LTM models have a number of qualities that disappeared with the M series. A M-6 has a different appearance and feel from the IIIG. If you can't see or appreciate that difference, then you will indeed moan about collectors living in never-never land. But please, let's be civil about all of this. Marvin, Marc and other collectors have a wealth of information to share whether you respect them, their ideas and opinions or not. To ignore that fact is pure foolishness. I would rather spend a week talking with collectors about the history of cameras and looking at various examples than spend a couple of hours with yet another mediocre photographer who's stuck on himself. Duane Birkey HCJB World Radio Quito Ecuador It's better to be humble than be humbled! ***** Message Was Scanned For Viruses *****