Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/07/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I found information about the topic on the Canon FD Mailing List (I suppose it is the same for Minolta, Nikon ...) I add some extracts hereafter. The remark of Chris Robertson seems to be the most interesting approach. Marco ------------------------------ Greg Tims (gtims@IX.NETCOM.COM) Sun, 04 May 1997 09:11:49 -0700 John Y. Liu wrote: > > At 11:55 AM 5/2/97 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Original (mechanical) F1: > <snip> > >Uses the (no longer available) PX625 mercury batteries. > <snip> > > Are there substitutes, e.g. Wein? Or since I hope to get a old F1 > someday and am currently in Europe should I stock up on mercury > batteries before returning to the US? Older Canon cameras (F-1, FTb etc.) used a PX-625 1.35 volt mercury battery to power the meter. The nice thing about the mercury batteries was they provided CONSTANT power over their lifespan and then just died; meter readings remained consistent throughout. Several years ago, evnironmental legislation in the United States banned mercury batteries for photographic use (Dentists can still fill your teeth with mercury based Amalgam but we can't use mercury batteries in cameras; go figure!) Existing stocks of batteries can be sold until depleted (which they almost are.) Countries other than the US still have mercury batteries available to them. Canon recommends a Wein Zinc Air Cell battery as the direct replacement for the PX-625 mercury battery. The following are the options for the older Canon cameras using the mercury batteries: WEIN AIR CELLS: Wein manufactures "air cell" batteries that directly replace the old mercury batteries. Problem: expensive and short life (about once every 1 to 2 months at about $8.00 a pop.) You can extend battery life by removing the battery after each use and placing a piece of tape over the two little holes in the battery - air is the catalyst that makes this battery work and exposure to air causes slow discharge. ALKALINE: The PX 625 mercury battery is 1.35v whereas current alkaline/air cell batteries are 1.5v. You can use the 1.5v battery but the metering accuracy will be off by approximately 1-stop underexposure. OPTIONS: (a) Buy up someone's existing supply of PX625 mercury batteries and hope you outlive the inventory. (b) Adjust your film ISO/ASA to compensate for approximately 1-stop underexposure when using a 1.5 volt battery. (c) Adjust your exposure to compensate for approximately 1-stop underexposure when using a 1.5 volt battery (assuming you did not adjust ISO/ASA addressed in option (b) ) (d) Canon Camera Repair Techs can modify/adjust the camera's meter to work accurately with the 1.5 volt batteries. Two quotes I had were in the $60 range for meter modification if that was the only work to be done on the camera. Both sources said they would do the modification as a "freebie" during a CLA (cleaning, lubrication and adjustment) which runs in the neighborhood of about $140. The metering accuracy will still degrade, however, due to the alkaline's SLOW DEATH syndrome! ("1.5->1.4->1.3->1.1V ... to death" I suppose - Marco) (e) C.R.I.S. Camera Service (who does Canon F-1 repairs by the way) developed a product called the MR-9 Adapter. Its a little "sleeve" that allows use of 1.5v alkaline batteries in cameras requiring 1.35v mercury batteries. At first glance, it appears expensive ($29.95 plus $1.50 shipping) BUT it is cheaper over the long run than constantly replacing Wein Air Cell batteries. It is claimed that this product provides constant voltage over the battery's lifespan similar to the way mercury PX625 batteries operated. Phone Number for C.R.I.S. Camera is 1-800--216-7579 and their WEB site is at http://www/criscam.com Disclaimer: I have absolutely NO affilitation with this company. Hope this helps somewhat. -- Greg Tims Gig Harbor, WA USA gtims@ix.netcom.com -------------- Chris Robertson (crobertson@STIC.NET) I have an adapter for using 1.38v zinc air hearing aid batteriy (675) in the F-1. These batteries are the same thickness but smaller diameter than the PX625/PX13. The battery fits into the adapter which makes it the perfect size. The batteries are cheap and you can find them anywhere. A pack of 6 is $5.99 at the local drug store! They are labled as 1.4v but are actually 1.38v. The only drawback is you have to wait about 30 minutes after pulling the tab off the battery to reach operating voltage. I got the adapter from a guy at a camera show for $10. If anyone is interested I can try to find his card to contact him. -- Chris Robertson San Antonio, TX