Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/02/01

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Subject: Re: FIE ON COLLECTORS!
From: ireland@blazenet.net (Robert Brummett)
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 15:24:31 -0500

>At 08:25 PM 1/29/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>At 03:53 PM 1/29/97 -0500, Charles Love, man of import, wrote:
>>
>>>I do hope the USERS means what it says, too--but there is a lot of collector
>>>stuff on this list as well.
>>
>>Y'know, I've been a LUG-nut for pushing two years now -- and I've NEVER
>>heard anything of collector interest here.  I use ALL my gear on occasion,
>>and I suspect everyone else does as well.
>>
>>Marc
>>
>>
>First, Marc, thanks for the promotion.  "Man of import," eh?  I'll put this
>one in my fan mail file!
>
>As for my remark about  "collectors:"  I'd suggest three categories in
>talking about them, and us on LUG:  (1) Pure Collectors:  People who collect
>cameras they do not use, though they may fondle them once in a while :-).
>(2) User Collectors: People who collect and use old equipment.  Such people
>do make photographs, and want them to be good, but part of the pleasure for
>them is in the using of the old equipment for its own sake.  (3)
>Photographers: People whose objective is to achieve the best possible image
>(whatever that means to them), and who see equipment primarily as a tool to
>reach that goal.   Of course people can fall in between these a bit, or mix
>them up.
>
> Anyway, by this standard, there are few pure collectors on LUG, I'd expect.
>But I would say there are lots of user collectors, and some photographers.
>By this standard, too, I'd say I moved from user collector toward
>photographer over the years as I tried for higher and higher image quality
>(landscapes, architecture, abstracts), though I do like equipment for its
>own sake too. (I have sold off all my screwmount and early M and R,  and
>have been working a lot in medium format lately).
>
>So: when I referred to "collector stuff on this list," I was really
>referring to the material that would be of primary interest to user
>collectors--and there is a lot of that here, and a good deal of it would be
>interesting to pure collectors as well (e.g. your discussion of the 40
>f2.8's rarity).  We all have different ways of approaching our
>hobby/vocation/passion!
>
>Charlie
>
>Charles E. Love, Jr.
>CEL14@CORNELL.EDU

I'd have to agree with M.O.I Love. Altho' I'm new to the list, as a
photo-teacher and working pro who happens to like good equipment I'd have
to say there's very little here about MAKING pictures.

Robert